Atheists, do you know that religion is based on ?
March 17th, 2010Life is important enough without all that mumbo jumbo.
im not angry, how you see anger in anything i say is confusing to me, i know im not angry, it suggests more about you that you see anger in what we say or think than it does us
nothing i slacking in my spiritual life
my spiritual life is very fulfilled, and grows daily
any anger or hostility you sence here on answers is directed at specific people and things they say, nothing more
and we all have anger, even you, i dont doubt you too have got angry over feeling insulted, offended, attacked or mocked
we are all just humans, all of us, and we all feel the same way
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there are plenty people of faith who are also quick to judge hurtful and and indifferent to non believers
A need to believe in supernatural entities. To paraphrase Douglas Adams, the garden is beautiful enough without having to imagine fairies at the bottom of it too.
I am sorry, but you may have to consider your own spirituality much more deeply if this is indeed the case.
Furthermore you ask a question in an impolite way, you are not going to get the most polite answers.
I would say most atheists aren't angry, but just feel pity, or sometimes frustration, that so many lives are being wasted in servility to some silly old-fashioned spiritual belief.
Peace, love, and clarity of mind to all.
Note: I'm not angry.
I used to be Athiest. But I could alwas feel what you are describing. So I found myself a religion I could believe in.
a wise person once wrote
"Prayer is a sophisticated way of pleading with thunderstorms"
and when you look back at the basis of religion, from its earliest shamanistic origins, that is very much true
i do not have a spiritual life, i have a real life, and i live it as best I can,
And sometimes, we aren't angry at all but you just read it that way because you want to. You can't show emotion through the key board unless you are using all caps and the only person I see around here doing that is Fireball, and that's not even all the time.
EDIT: we did read the full question. We're not idiots obviously.
EDIT EDIT: Your name "Peace and Love" is rather ironic considering this question and the fact that disagreement in religions lead to war. If you truly wanted "peace and love" you'd practice aht you preach and move onto asking a different question.
It is more than possible to be content in one's life without clinging to an idea that there is anything supernatural controlling the universe. Really, I swear it is. It is more than possible to be satisfied with the life one has, and not need a greater purpose or need to believe in a master plan to everything that exists. There's nothing lacking there. I like my life. I better, because it's the only one I get!
Most of the people I know who don't like this life are in fact theists who are holding out hope that someday their god will show them their purpose or fix something they don't like or change those around them instead of taking charge of their own happiness.
Might I suggest to you, however, that they feel nothing is lacking in their spiritual lives?
I support the right of every individual to choose their own religious beliefs.
PS - Your "additional details" really come across making YOU sound angry and out of control emotionally.
The spiritual should not be forced into the confining shape of any religion.
I am fine.
Now **** off and take that idiot user DIVINA with you.
I just want to slap people like that.
Do you really think it all began with a sanctimonious Jewish wonder-worker, strolling about 1st century Palestine? Prepare to be enlightened.
Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD â “ the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs. Following a star would lead you in circles. The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin. That idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses.
Scholars have known all this for more than 200 years but priestcraft is a highly profitable business and finances an industry of deceit to keep the show on the road. "Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure" ? Don't believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence.
Bible?...
There are actually some 200 gospels, epistles and other books concerning the life of Jesus Christ. Writing such material was a popular literary form, particularly in the 2nd century. The pious fantasies competed with Greek romantic fiction. Political considerations in the late 2nd century led to the selection of just four approved gospels and the rejection of others. After three centuries of wrangling 23 other books were accepted by the Church as divinely inspired. The rest were declared 'pious frauds'. In truth, the whole lot belongs to a genre of literary fiction.
I hope this doesn't offend - I'd hate to think anything was lacking in your spiritual life....
Incidentally I am not remotely angry, nor are my posts written in an angry tone. I can only assume that you are projecting your own anger onto others.
'Spirit' is as much mumbo jumbo as unicorns and leprechauns. So no.
tonight i went for a run and found that my local bay in the middle of sydney harbor was full of bioluminescent dianoflagellates, so i ended up spending an hour (getting quite cold) wading in the water surrounded by glowing neon blue whenever the water moved or i took a step in the sand... there is nothing lacking in my spiritual life. i'm sorry, but even noting you said spiritual doesn't change the fact that for me there isn't a separation, i take what i need from the world around me and form life. as a biologist i know how bioluminescence works, how it evolved, what it's purpose is, but knowing that doesn't take away from the beauty and wonder, if anything it adds to it. i don't feel the need to attribute that beauty to a mysterious higher power.
some atheists here do come across as rude or angry, many are, a lot are joking, but often it's not funny for the people who are at the other end. of course many theist are just as bad, i think it's probably a human problem rather then one related to belief (or lack there of).
you should understand that assuming people are lacking something because they're angry is going to be interpreted as insulting and/or patronising. most of the people who are angry are frustrated by the influence religion can have on the society they live in, by people assuming that you need religion to have a fulfilling life, or to be moral person ("atheists have no morals" is a regular answer to questions here). it can also be frustrating trying to make people understand that we can simply not believe in god, we're not part of an organised 'religion' denouncing god, we don't worship darwin at the alter of science, evolution is not a belief, theory doesn't mean unproved and asking someone to prove there is no god shows a distinct lack of common sense. every time someone makes one of these assumptions about atheists you know that that person is reflecting opinions that are widespread in society, and in the end those people have more influence over the direction our world is taking. all that makes some people angry, it makes me sad, but i has nothing to do with anything lacking from a spiritual life.
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